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Month: August 2007

Gonzaga's Adam Morrison Gonzaga University is another school that has discovered Zinch.com this summer. Yesterday I chatted with Julie McCulloh, Dean of Admissions at Gonzaga. Julie shared some insights and examples from Gonzaga that will benefit any student gearing up for college admissions process. For this reason, and for the fact that Adam Morrison and his crustache, I mean mustache, came to fame at Gonzaga, I’d like to share a few pieces of our conversation…

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Many students wonder whether they should submit their AP scores if they are not high. They wonder if, on the plus side, by submitting them, they at least indicate that they didn't duck the test and avoid it. On the negative side, they will be sharing test scores that will not help them gain admission.

My general advice would be that if you got a 3 or above, list the score on your application. If you got a 1 or 2, don't. If you do not list AP scores (remember, they are not required), colleges will not know whether your scores were low or whether you didn't take the test at all. Not all students take the actual AP exam at the end of a course. Colleges know that AP tests are quite expensive and some students simply can't afford it. (This of course would be an unlikely assumption if your parents are both CEOs, lawyers, doctors, etc)

It's still good to take the AP class even if you don't take the test. Colleges will respect the initiative you took in taking the course and will carefully look at the grade you received during the school year.

Stanford Recently, we visited Stanford University. If you didn’t know, Stanford’s campus is huge. We grabbed a Jamba Juice and split a powerbagel for breakfast, then took a bad turn en route to the admissions office. I was driving and Nathaniel (Than) was manning MS Steets and Trips on his laptop. Who do you blame? Than of course! Anyway, eventually we got there.

In a meeting with Densil (an associate director in admissions) we were schooled on Stanford admissions. I’ll share the best parts….

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I've gotten a couple questions about when and how to schedule an interview so instead of commenting, I figured I'd post so everyone would see. Some colleges do (alumni) interviews only after the applications are in. Some colleges do interviews only prior to the submission of the application. Some colleges do both. Call the schools you're interested in to inquire about their procedures because making assumptions will likely leave you out of luck.

The procedure at Dartmouth, which is the only school whose process I can speak for, is that alumni call applicants to schedule interviews after the applications are in, but applicants can also schedule on-campus interviews during the summer and fall. Applicants can do one, the other, both, or neither. I know of another school that does alumni interviews in students's home towns but ONLY before the application deadline. In order to stay on top of things, you've got to call schools to figure out how they do interviews because there's no standardized way in which they incorporate interviewing into their admissions process.

When admissions officers look at your transcript they are looking to see which courses you took and how well you did in them. These elements are of equal importance. If your school offers AP classes, take the ones that interest you and fit into your schedule. Colleges don't prioritize certain AP classes above others, so AP Biology isn't categorically different to admissions officers than AP US History. If you elect not to take the challenging courses that your school offers, make sure that you're still taking the most challenging courseload you can handle.

You are not expected to take each and every AP class offered and you do not need to take every AP exam (although many schools hope you will). Admissions officers understand that it may be impossible to take all APs based on scheduling.  They also understand that it may be impossible to maintain sanity by taking too many APs. Sure, other students may take more AP classes than you but the idea is not to drive yourself insane with an impossibly difficult schedule. There will always be another hypothetical student who has done a little more than you. Letting this imaginary individual affect your choices will not necessarily help you get into your dream school.

The ideal compliment to a rigorous courseload is a passionate, eager to learn student. Burn out isn’t compelling so keep yourself on the sane side of crazy.

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When I worked in admissions I was often asked the question whether there is a difference between how colleges treat the IB (International Baccalaureate) curriculum and AP (Advanced Placement) courses.

 

The short answer: no.

 

Most students are familiar with at least one of these options for advanced coursework and have one available at their high school. Some students still worry that their school’s advanced courses are not as competitive as other schools’. You can stop worrying. If you're eligible or interested in taking advanced courses whatever you decide to do will be considered by colleges.

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I've been suggesting that when you guys visit colleges, or speak with admissions officers at college fairs, you should ask questions. Not all questions are helpful, though. And since you'll only have so much time with admissions officers, you don't want to spend your time asking unanswerable questions. When speaking with college admissions officers, the following is an example of how not to start your questions:

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